That joke is overused, and even if it weren’t it’s not funny. It’s an asshole joke.
Totally agree.
All jokes are asshole jokes. Get over it.
They… really, really aren’t, and it shows a laziness, lack of imagination, and unwillingness to fit your joke to your audience to think that. Absurdist humor isn’t “asshole jokes.” Anything that doesn’t punch down isn’t an asshole joke, generally.
Meanwhile, suggesting trans women are “traps” who lure in unsuspecting men is literally a concept used to justify their murder, so… yeah.
What the fuck. Do you know what a trap is?
wow, three years later and you’re still triggered! LMFAO get a fucking life!
Nezumi’s triggered!😂There are too many retards in the world as of late😂😂
You know what? Nevermind, I don’t want to get into this conversation anymore. Bye guys 👋
i’ll get over your mom’s butthole.
I know I’m super late, but don’t be so triggered.
You mean “offended.” Triggered refers to having a trigger for a mental illness such as PTSD, phobias, or depression hit, and it’s generally been used in that spirit and respectfully, if not always completely correctly, by the people who are supposedly “abusing the term”, while the folks who made it into a joke are mocking mentally ill people by making their issues into a joke.
Sincerely,
Someone who has PTSD and depression, among a few other triggerable conditions.
words can mean more than one thing ya know… I’m guessing your a trans freak too, there cant be another reason you are responding to three year old posts. lmao
are you triggered?
“Twitter gave me PTSD”
Were you in a war, Nizumi?
No truly, what gives you the right to say you have PTSD? I don’t care if you think you’re a special snowflake in all other regards, why do YOU have PTSD?
Just get a therapist then, and stop crying about it on the internet to get clout and attention.
You have depression? Wow. Get over it. You aren’t the only one. Honestly how do we know that you actually have PSTD and you didn’t just read something for an excuse?
From here upwards, only retards have responded to Nezumi. Little bitches who think the most dumb insults are the definition of comedy. They have no concept of happiness, for they are unable to live in society without throwing shit like the rabid monkeys they are.
You, who are reading these words, remember that as you read the stupidest retorts against someone who has done nothing of truly despicable.
We can only hope that, as time passed, these people stopped being retards and got a life.
Yours truly,
Brian.
lmao youre just upset someone called out transphobia. “How dare you not laugh at my funny joke??” he cries. Shut up lad. go outside. talk to people.
If you mean it is an asshole joke because the guy who keeps saying nice is an asshole then yes it is.
Nice Tumblr comment
*laughs at 40% suicide rate lol*
Laughs at 40% suicide rate lol!
I’d recommend you keep your boring jokes to yourself. Do everyone a favor.
you g0t rickr0ll0d, didn’t you?
nice starwars refrenc€.
Good thing he likes the look of her from behind! 😛
Seeing her from behind probably explains why he doesn’t recognize her/him. (I like how the boy being taunted never responds with anything beyond a raised eyebrow.) But I’ll bet the redhead remembers that nasty little so-and-so; my, does he have a surprise coming!
I don’t see how he’s taunting her. He’s compliment her stuff.
This entire comment section is liberal as fuck. Its a dumb queer comic on something we thought we should remove from the cabnet of mental illness and put smack dab in “Acceptable”.
Other things we decided we should remove from the cabinet of mental illness and put in “Acceptable”:
Not wanting to be a slave.
Homosexuality.
Female nervousness, sexual desire, and “tendency to cause trouble.”
Things get pathologized to hurt marginalized people, and get de-pathologized because the diagnosis served little useful function other than that. This is another example of that. Why, exactly, are you so upset at people getting to live in a way that they’re happy, instead of miserable and suicidal?
Seriously? Dude. Not every woman or girl has the desire to cause trouble. Maybe think before you say something like that. Why? Cause it’s not true
Hey lad.
I completely agree with you, but try to avoid engaging with fascistic little freaks like most of the people responding to you. It’s not good for your mental health and it doesn’t really achieve anything, besides making all these rotten little plagues upon our world get out of whatever 4chan circlejerk they are and start throwing insults in a webcomic comment section.
I know I’m late to this, but remember to live life to the fullest, with people who care about you, and who you care about back.
Yours truly,
Brian
lmao you fucking snowflake. Cry us a river.
i’ll river your mom’s butthole
this comment section is full of weird and obsessive hatred, and is probably not something jesus of nazareth would say is cool or normal.
What the actually fuck is going on in these comments??? Both sides are in the wrong here. One is mad because they can’t understand humor, not all jokes are meant to be taken literally ya know; and the other side is mad because the comic even showed a trans person(yes, a human being).
Yeah, a ten foot long cock
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So are you like, an ignorant fuckwit?
The bully is trying to have sex with a man. That is pretty fucking gay
except that’s not a man. she’s a woman.
He has SRY. He is a dude.
Gender =\ sex
It is the same thing and last I checked two people of the same sex having sex together was gay
We should respect people whop don’t identify with the bodies they were given at birth.
I for example am a blonde wolfman… Sure my hair is brown and my body is human, but I take supliments for the hair growth and color it yellow. Soon I’ll undergo surgery and have my face look like a wolf.
I wish people would stop looking at me like I’m some sort of freak…
Don’t feed the trolls, G.
Its a dude, fucking idiot. Still has a penis
We have no evidence she still has a penis, and having a penis isn’t actually the determinant of a person’s sex. Strictly, sex is based on the relative size of the gametes they produce (larger = female, smaller = male, similar size = + and -, which are distinguished by traits I can’t remember because I’m not hugely up on fungi which are the main organisms you see that in), and as far as humans, biologists have proposed everywhere from 5 to 9 different dimensions of sex, including hormone levels, external genitalia, internal gonads…
Plus, what, exactly, is harmed or changed by considering her a woman? How does that change anything of significance? What is the downside?
Also, nice false equivalency, What Word. Because, clearly, a recognized and studied phenomenon in which people can have a gender identity inconsistent with their assigned gender is exactly the same as believing you’re a wolfman, and “supplements for hair growth” are the same as formal medical treatment.
Nice buzzwords
I self identity as a person who wants you to kill yourself. Please respect my rights, If you don’t kill yourself now then you are being prejudice and ignorant.
Yep, that’s a woman and I’m something equally fallacious
We have astronomical scientific evidence that supports two things:
Gender is not the same as sex. Gender is a static structure within the brain that can be male, female, or not strongly male OR female depending on the structure. This forms while in the womb, where chemicals that shape the brain are given based on anatomical sex: xx gets female brain, xy gets male brain.
But, sometimes there’s a mismatch. Sometimes you might get an xy with a female brain, or an xx with a male brain, or an xx/xy with a brain that’s not quite male OR female depending on how the chemicals that form gender in the brain were mismatched.
QED: quit obsessing about everyone else’s genitals and actually pay attention to the important stuff.
But sex is the one that matters.
Your QED is such a brilliant summary! Here here!
The pot calling the kettle black much?
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
IM FUCKING LAUGHING YOU CANT BE MALE AND BORN WITH A “FEMALE BRAIN”
THATS NOT HOW GENETICS WORK DUMBASS THATS CALLED MISSING A COUPLE CHROMOSOMES
Faggola: You… do realize that most of physical sexual expression is based on prenatal hormone levels, not chromosomes, right? This is basic biology. Chromosomes determine gonads. Hormones determine physical development of sexual characteristics. These are not always in sync. On top of that, there are various genetic variations that can lead to development not in line with simple karyotype, such as Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome or Swyer syndrome.
(That said, there are other reasons to doubt the “female brained male” and “male brained female” explanation for trans people, including that there’s a dearth of clear evidence that brains have meaningful sex — that there’s tendencies toward certain brain structures being more or less developed, but when you take the entire brain as a whole, there’s no clear “sexing” where one has just male or female traits, as well as there being a range of expression even among those individual structures in each sex)
Maybe brush up on your biology, rather than relying on Middle School textbooks?
There are two genders, and they are both equally inferior in the eyes of Zenu.
Gender=sex. Simple as that.
Who did you here that from, feminist?
Damnit! I spelled “hear” wrong! You probably didn’t notice though because you’re too busy being “special”. I think you’re missing a few chromosomes yourself.
For once i agree with Nezumi. Just because you’re born with a man’s body doesn’t mean that you have to be a man. If you feel as though you want to dress like a “woman” or act like a “woman” that is totally fine. If you feel like a woman then be a woman. Get surgery. We don’t even know if she is a she or a he. She/He could just be dressing differently and acting differently.
Very nice comix. Please continue this story.
It’s always the assholes who are the most stupid. 🙂
So where’s the link to the girl hormone pills website??? I want hair like that
lol… Tony wins for best comment.
Yay!!! Thanks Ryan. Do I get a monetary reward???
Wish they worked that well.
That is pretty epic hair.
So correct me if I’m wrong…
The redhead is a girl that used to be mistaken for a boy, and had to take the hormone supplements to make herself look less like a guy. Correct?
She was born a male, but feels she is a girl (trans) – she likes girly things and looking like a girl, but society doesn’t see her as a girl unless she looks 100% like a woman, (and if she still had a penis, many still wouldn’t accept her gender identity)
Sex = between your legs (at birth)
Gender = the sex of your brain
Wrong.
Gender=Sex
Basically what sex you have: Male/Female.
Gender Identity is what you call ‘gender’.
Does it even matter? Can’t people just hate each other and move on with there lives?
I apoligize that was for “What starts with F and ends with uck”. Srry to waste your time Toonfool
Yes and no. Sex is what you were born with but gender is different. What if someone decided to be non-binary (Which i honestly don’t entirely understand.)
Sex = what you are genetically throughout your life
Thank you! You are one of the only people who actually knows what they’re talking about! To be honest just until 2 months ago i thought gender and sex were the same thing. Pushka, you are very smart.
She’s trans. Living in wrong body and hormone supplements helped her to live as girl, cuz she’s feeling like girl.
Yep
If we could just see her as she identifies herself from childhood, everything would be better.. And though “other” gendered peeps would perhaps get less bullied growing up, there’d be less representation, since everything is always so gender binary focused.. Hmmm.. Why can’t people just do what they want, they’re not hurting anyone ~~~
Dude is obviously attempting to rape the bully by pretending to be a woman
Jeff’s just obviously badly trolling with logic that only the most disgusting ignorant of society would begin to grasp.
So you are saying that lying to and having sex with someone who is drunk and is unable to consent does not count as rape?
Are you legitimately retarded? She’s not trying to have sex with anyone. That smirk is realizing the bully who tormented her all those years for liking girlish things (as a boy) now finds her hot.
Yes, you and you alone are able to determine the motivation of a comic character
clearly a Looong term plan of seduction
where…where the hell did you draw that conclusion? Especially considering their both drinking.
She looks smug, because when you’re bullied long enough, you never forget that.
here here
If she could just be a normal person, that would be much better. It’s so much easier for everyone when there aren’t people who think they deserve to be thought of as “special” by the entire damn world!
What exactly do you consider normal Gus? If there was such a thing as normal then some people would be the same. But i dont think there is anyone in this world that has someone who is identical in both everything they do, like, dislike, or look like. So “normal” isn’t really a thing and you are just a big idiot.
So, do all you faggots like having sex with trannies or some shit? That is pretty gross.
Jim/Jeff…get outta here with that speak!
Yea, fuck people who don’t push your particular agenda
Yea, fuck people who are so anrrow-minded anything out of their viewpoint is a personally attack on them and must be part of some bigger, wider ‘agenda’.
You act high and mighty, but you’re as low as the people drawing these cartoons (love you toonhole), you retarded fuck. 😀
Yea, anyone who doesn’t conform to your view point must be stupid and narrow minded. Of course you are the genius who has all the answers
No, but you know what DOES have all the answers? Neurological science over the past three decades. And guess what? All that nice neurological science favors transgenderism because of what they found.
Wait? She’s a transexual? I thought the hormone supplement is just female medicine and the first panels were her being a tomboy.
GEEZ GUYS YOU’RE REALLY PUSHING EVERYONE’S BUTTONS AGAIN TODAY
ONCE AGAIN: EVERYONE IS EQUALLY FAKE AND GAY. EVERYONE IS STUPID AND AWFUL. EQUALLY :))))
except chris, i’d fuck chris and maybe ryan if chris would only fuck me in a threesome and maybe the whole toonhole cast of writers buttheyrestillfakeandgay
YOU’RE WELCOME
*takes comb out of pocket, combs pompadour*
So is she a transexual or a girl who is a tomboy at young age.
I don’t see how it matters.
I mean like I don’t know if it was a tran joke or a childhood bully falling in love with the girl that he bullied.
I mean there were women who took hormone supplement or something for their female body health.
I think Ryan was aiming at the idea that the redhead was a boy, and in panel 3 is now on Hormone Replacement Therapy, and develops into a girl by panel 4.
The other boy bullies the redhead for looking like a girl and wanting to be a girl, but is then attracted to the redhead when she actually looks like a developed woman.
This is weird, considering last night I had a dream where I had a sex change…
I’ve been reading Toonhole for years.. this comic stood out the most. It means a lot to see a joke about trans people that’s not derogatory. Mad respect
Really appreciate it, Lester! Thanks for chiming in. Glad to have your readership 🙂
She’s got an eye disorder! She can’t help but look to her right all the time D:
my high school biology teacher told us that your reproductive organ is used (at birth) to name you. it doesn’t (in actual sense) determine your sex. now i’m going to make a noose and hang myself.
Of course it determines your sex; your sex is *defined* as what type of reproductive organs you have. I think your teacher meant that it doesn’t determine your gender (or, to be more technical, your gender identity).
The guy has a thing for green shirts and blue trousers.
oh, right to the point. hmm…ah!
There’s nothin’ wrong with following your passions…as long as it’s not killin’ or rape. 😀
*shrugs* I thought it was a girl from the start and the boy taunting at the beginning was just an idiot and didn’t know it was a girl, not a guy. I was teased for looking like a boy until my breasts and hips shaped out. And girls sometimes have to take supplement hormones because their bodies don’t make enough.
That _is_ actually a nice girl bike! 😀
Gee, lot of butthurt comments.
I thought it was a pretty good message :).
Wow!!! So many uptight people. It’s just a cartoon. And a damn funny one at that
Thank you so much for not treating her like a punchline in and of herself. I’ll be sharing this with my trans* friends/family, and I’m betting they get a good chuckle out of it too. 🙂
her ass is kinda low
Dang, I didn’t even realize what this was until I looked at the first panel again.
Nice girl penis!
as a transgirl myself, i’m quite happy to see this comic.
I also see the typical ‘faggot’ comments be chucked about by people who understand really don’t want to understand. Depressing but typical.
idiots.
That makes us really happy, licorice! There’s momentum of trans representation in media these days, hopefully leading to more understanding and long overdue acceptance. Hopefully ToonHole can be part of that : )
Was already hot in highschool.
lol @ these butthurt comments.
Poor trolls so emotionally invested in telling others what someone else’s body means to society. I have some news for you.
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That thing you’re ashamed of that you don’t want anyone to know about; it’s showing right now. You’re not fooling anyone. Come to the dark side, we have boobies.
“I got sexy. You stayed boring.”
This is a wonderful comic!
Traps are gay my dudes, be careful.
Trap?
this is a meme now
News flash: gender still equals sex dipshitolas
But in 2016 America, everyone takes “you can be whatever you wanna be when you grow up!” a little too seriously
And people somehow just suddenly have to accept it
But some people aren’t gonna do that immediately, of course
That’s just how shit works
Also read up on biology, those saying there’s an autism spectrum of genders
Fuckyoubillnyewelovedyouandyousoldoutonusall
Nezumi as edgy as it sounds please hang yourself
Yo, my nama jeff harambe 21 damn daniel back at it again with the white vans
Eww, transpeople are gross and mentally retarded
You can say that again👍
ikr, I agree and I’m trans myself lmao
guys what if the kid thought she looked like a boy the whole time and she never corrected him. Stay woke my children
In all reality this is a mental condition. Rather than you ignorant idiots insulting “narrow minded people” I recommend you open your very own mind and look at all view points rather than stooping down to the likes of Jim/Jeff. How I see it gender is determined by the body, neurologically yes the brain has issues distinguishing due to chemical imbalance, but the fact of the matter is it is still a mental condition. Sex is your gender, your body parts such as the male genitalia determine if you are male or female. A female is born with its own set of genetalia for reproduction and a male is given the like. Now do not get me wrong, I do not hate the people who made a choice, but I do not quite back up such a choice. A person is a person and they deserve proper respect, a choice is a choice and that can be judged and opinionated. Also you may ask why I do not support the choice and my simple answer is religion. Also, please do not hit me with your opinions and insults, I gave you up most respect despite my ideals, now please show me respect.
Here here my friend, here here
I’ve found it. The meme. The myth. The legend. Nice.
He only said “nice” at the end because he was drunk😂
This is the day of the expanding man
That shape is my shade
There where I used to stand
It seems like only yesterday
I gazed through the glass
At ramblers, wild gamblers
That’s all in the past
You call me a fool
You say it’s a crazy scheme
This one’s for real
I already bought the dream
So useless to ask me why
Throw a kiss and say goodbye
I’ll make it this time
I’m ready to cross that fine line
Learn to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
My back to the wall
A victim of laughing chance
This is for me
The essence of true romance
Sharing the things we know and love
With those of my kind
Libations
Sensations
That stagger the mind
I crawl like a viper
Through these suburban streets
Make love to these women
Languid and bittersweet
I rise when the sun goes down
Cover every game in town
A world of my own
I’ll make it my home sweet home
Learn to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
This is the night of the expanding man
I take one last drag
As I approach the stand
I cried when I wrote this song
Sue me if I play too long
This brother is free
I’ll be what I want to be
I learned to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
i would love to extend on this. because this can become a comedic/romance and deconstruction of a genre
I saw this on Instagram once. It was funny! Those kinds of memes were also funny!
Oh i’m a fucking idiot, I didn’t even realize that was a trans chick until today. I just thought that the chick was underdeveloped for a long ass time and the moral was “don’t judge someone until they’ve fully bloomed” or somethin. Atleast the comic makes sense to me now lol
Very nice comix! Please continue this story!
THEORY: She was a girl the whole time, but she looked like a boy. To look less masculine, she grew out her hair and took supplements. She smirked when she found him staring at her because she knew she’d gotten revenge. She was never a boy. He thought she was a boy and was teasing her for liking girly things even though she was a girl for real. She got him back.
Nah, it’s a smoking hot tranny, one of those that could fool a gynecologist.
We’ve all “been fooled” by one of them, haven’t we?
Haven’t we?
Guys?
That what I was thinking. Saw an altered version of this on YouTube with her smerking and thought this would be the outcome, but I’m very surprised to see a lot of people saying it’s LGBT. It’s fine if it is, I just see it as a girl being bullied for looking like a boy till she finally develops (bodies chang at different rates).
I wish I could go back to a time when I didn’t know about this trash
Me too, dude. Me too.
Had a bit of a giggle at this one. Keep em coming.
As a gender fluid person who was teased over gender issues in the past, I’ve gotta say: well done 😂
all anti-lgbtq people can go burn in hell.
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So are you saying that women are solely defined by having children? Seems a little reductive, doesn’t it?
So ignorant. Transsexual is not a fetish.
So you’re calling science a sexual deviant?
What the hell is wrong with most of you
*gives pro lgbtq, furry, etc opinion on comic and coments*
most coments in this are ether pro lgbtq or angry for no reason assholes.
hell exsists, right? (not for lgbtq, furry, etc)
*loud claping*
i have also spoted a furry, imature idiot, and just nice coments about the comic.
Why are there so many pseudoscientific transphobes in the comments? It’s not that hard to do research nowadays.
bro most of these coments are from 2017
did you YOU do your fucking research you fucking idiot
don’t make a big deal out of a small thing again!
Really hoping that she was originally just a tomboy, and that guy knew she was actually a girl. And those hormone supplements were just that supplements. And this was a joke on the audience.
This reminds me of a girl I went to school with. Even though her hair was as short as every one of the boys’ hair, everyone knew she was a girl. She could’ve been more tomboyish.
Toonhole
174 comments on “Nice Girl’s Bike”
Nice man first comment.
Nice first comment
nice first reply to first coment
nice fir$t reply to first reply of first com€nt.
Nice first trans/genderfluid fir$t reply to ferst reply to….aw shucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiygG8Gx7bg
*sigh* All right then. Let’s get it over with:
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It’s a trap!
That joke is overused, and even if it weren’t it’s not funny. It’s an asshole joke.
Totally agree.
All jokes are asshole jokes. Get over it.
They… really, really aren’t, and it shows a laziness, lack of imagination, and unwillingness to fit your joke to your audience to think that. Absurdist humor isn’t “asshole jokes.” Anything that doesn’t punch down isn’t an asshole joke, generally.
Meanwhile, suggesting trans women are “traps” who lure in unsuspecting men is literally a concept used to justify their murder, so… yeah.
What the fuck. Do you know what a trap is?
wow, three years later and you’re still triggered! LMFAO get a fucking life!
Nezumi’s triggered!😂There are too many retards in the world as of late😂😂
You know what? Nevermind, I don’t want to get into this conversation anymore. Bye guys 👋
i’ll get over your mom’s butthole.
I know I’m super late, but don’t be so triggered.
You mean “offended.” Triggered refers to having a trigger for a mental illness such as PTSD, phobias, or depression hit, and it’s generally been used in that spirit and respectfully, if not always completely correctly, by the people who are supposedly “abusing the term”, while the folks who made it into a joke are mocking mentally ill people by making their issues into a joke.
Sincerely,
Someone who has PTSD and depression, among a few other triggerable conditions.
words can mean more than one thing ya know… I’m guessing your a trans freak too, there cant be another reason you are responding to three year old posts. lmao
are you triggered?
“Twitter gave me PTSD”
Were you in a war, Nizumi?
No truly, what gives you the right to say you have PTSD? I don’t care if you think you’re a special snowflake in all other regards, why do YOU have PTSD?
Just get a therapist then, and stop crying about it on the internet to get clout and attention.
You have depression? Wow. Get over it. You aren’t the only one. Honestly how do we know that you actually have PSTD and you didn’t just read something for an excuse?
From here upwards, only retards have responded to Nezumi. Little bitches who think the most dumb insults are the definition of comedy. They have no concept of happiness, for they are unable to live in society without throwing shit like the rabid monkeys they are.
You, who are reading these words, remember that as you read the stupidest retorts against someone who has done nothing of truly despicable.
We can only hope that, as time passed, these people stopped being retards and got a life.
Yours truly,
Brian.
lmao youre just upset someone called out transphobia. “How dare you not laugh at my funny joke??” he cries. Shut up lad. go outside. talk to people.
If you mean it is an asshole joke because the guy who keeps saying nice is an asshole then yes it is.
Nice Tumblr comment
*laughs at 40% suicide rate lol*
Laughs at 40% suicide rate lol!
I’d recommend you keep your boring jokes to yourself. Do everyone a favor.
trap is a transphobic slur, dont use it
Trap trap trap trap trap trap trap… “Oh no! Nothing happened 😱😱”
you g0t rickr0ll0d, didn’t you?
nice starwars refrenc€.
Good thing he likes the look of her from behind! 😛
Seeing her from behind probably explains why he doesn’t recognize her/him. (I like how the boy being taunted never responds with anything beyond a raised eyebrow.) But I’ll bet the redhead remembers that nasty little so-and-so; my, does he have a surprise coming!
I don’t see how he’s taunting her. He’s compliment her stuff.
This entire comment section is liberal as fuck. Its a dumb queer comic on something we thought we should remove from the cabnet of mental illness and put smack dab in “Acceptable”.
Other things we decided we should remove from the cabinet of mental illness and put in “Acceptable”:
Not wanting to be a slave.
Homosexuality.
Female nervousness, sexual desire, and “tendency to cause trouble.”
Things get pathologized to hurt marginalized people, and get de-pathologized because the diagnosis served little useful function other than that. This is another example of that. Why, exactly, are you so upset at people getting to live in a way that they’re happy, instead of miserable and suicidal?
Seriously? Dude. Not every woman or girl has the desire to cause trouble. Maybe think before you say something like that. Why? Cause it’s not true
Hey lad.
I completely agree with you, but try to avoid engaging with fascistic little freaks like most of the people responding to you. It’s not good for your mental health and it doesn’t really achieve anything, besides making all these rotten little plagues upon our world get out of whatever 4chan circlejerk they are and start throwing insults in a webcomic comment section.
I know I’m late to this, but remember to live life to the fullest, with people who care about you, and who you care about back.
Yours truly,
Brian
lmao you fucking snowflake. Cry us a river.
i’ll river your mom’s butthole
this comment section is full of weird and obsessive hatred, and is probably not something jesus of nazareth would say is cool or normal.
What the actually fuck is going on in these comments??? Both sides are in the wrong here. One is mad because they can’t understand humor, not all jokes are meant to be taken literally ya know; and the other side is mad because the comic even showed a trans person(yes, a human being).
Yeah, a ten foot long cock
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So are you like, an ignorant fuckwit?
The bully is trying to have sex with a man. That is pretty fucking gay
except that’s not a man. she’s a woman.
He has SRY. He is a dude.
Gender =\ sex
It is the same thing and last I checked two people of the same sex having sex together was gay
We should respect people whop don’t identify with the bodies they were given at birth.
I for example am a blonde wolfman… Sure my hair is brown and my body is human, but I take supliments for the hair growth and color it yellow. Soon I’ll undergo surgery and have my face look like a wolf.
I wish people would stop looking at me like I’m some sort of freak…
Don’t feed the trolls, G.
Its a dude, fucking idiot. Still has a penis
We have no evidence she still has a penis, and having a penis isn’t actually the determinant of a person’s sex. Strictly, sex is based on the relative size of the gametes they produce (larger = female, smaller = male, similar size = + and -, which are distinguished by traits I can’t remember because I’m not hugely up on fungi which are the main organisms you see that in), and as far as humans, biologists have proposed everywhere from 5 to 9 different dimensions of sex, including hormone levels, external genitalia, internal gonads…
Plus, what, exactly, is harmed or changed by considering her a woman? How does that change anything of significance? What is the downside?
Also, nice false equivalency, What Word. Because, clearly, a recognized and studied phenomenon in which people can have a gender identity inconsistent with their assigned gender is exactly the same as believing you’re a wolfman, and “supplements for hair growth” are the same as formal medical treatment.
Nice buzzwords
I self identity as a person who wants you to kill yourself. Please respect my rights, If you don’t kill yourself now then you are being prejudice and ignorant.
Yep, that’s a woman and I’m something equally fallacious
We have astronomical scientific evidence that supports two things:
Gender is not the same as sex. Gender is a static structure within the brain that can be male, female, or not strongly male OR female depending on the structure. This forms while in the womb, where chemicals that shape the brain are given based on anatomical sex: xx gets female brain, xy gets male brain.
But, sometimes there’s a mismatch. Sometimes you might get an xy with a female brain, or an xx with a male brain, or an xx/xy with a brain that’s not quite male OR female depending on how the chemicals that form gender in the brain were mismatched.
QED: quit obsessing about everyone else’s genitals and actually pay attention to the important stuff.
But sex is the one that matters.
Your QED is such a brilliant summary! Here here!
The pot calling the kettle black much?
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
IM FUCKING LAUGHING YOU CANT BE MALE AND BORN WITH A “FEMALE BRAIN”
THATS NOT HOW GENETICS WORK DUMBASS THATS CALLED MISSING A COUPLE CHROMOSOMES
Faggola: You… do realize that most of physical sexual expression is based on prenatal hormone levels, not chromosomes, right? This is basic biology. Chromosomes determine gonads. Hormones determine physical development of sexual characteristics. These are not always in sync. On top of that, there are various genetic variations that can lead to development not in line with simple karyotype, such as Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome or Swyer syndrome.
(That said, there are other reasons to doubt the “female brained male” and “male brained female” explanation for trans people, including that there’s a dearth of clear evidence that brains have meaningful sex — that there’s tendencies toward certain brain structures being more or less developed, but when you take the entire brain as a whole, there’s no clear “sexing” where one has just male or female traits, as well as there being a range of expression even among those individual structures in each sex)
Maybe brush up on your biology, rather than relying on Middle School textbooks?
There are two genders, and they are both equally inferior in the eyes of Zenu.
Gender=sex. Simple as that.
Who did you here that from, feminist?
Damnit! I spelled “hear” wrong! You probably didn’t notice though because you’re too busy being “special”. I think you’re missing a few chromosomes yourself.
For once i agree with Nezumi. Just because you’re born with a man’s body doesn’t mean that you have to be a man. If you feel as though you want to dress like a “woman” or act like a “woman” that is totally fine. If you feel like a woman then be a woman. Get surgery. We don’t even know if she is a she or a he. She/He could just be dressing differently and acting differently.
Very nice comix. Please continue this story.
It’s always the assholes who are the most stupid. 🙂
So where’s the link to the girl hormone pills website??? I want hair like that
lol… Tony wins for best comment.
Yay!!! Thanks Ryan. Do I get a monetary reward???
Wish they worked that well.
That is pretty epic hair.
So correct me if I’m wrong…
The redhead is a girl that used to be mistaken for a boy, and had to take the hormone supplements to make herself look less like a guy. Correct?
She was born a male, but feels she is a girl (trans) – she likes girly things and looking like a girl, but society doesn’t see her as a girl unless she looks 100% like a woman, (and if she still had a penis, many still wouldn’t accept her gender identity)
Sex = between your legs (at birth)
Gender = the sex of your brain
Wrong.
Gender=Sex
Basically what sex you have: Male/Female.
Gender Identity is what you call ‘gender’.
Does it even matter? Can’t people just hate each other and move on with there lives?
I apoligize that was for “What starts with F and ends with uck”. Srry to waste your time Toonfool
Yes and no. Sex is what you were born with but gender is different. What if someone decided to be non-binary (Which i honestly don’t entirely understand.)
Sex = what you are genetically throughout your life
Thank you! You are one of the only people who actually knows what they’re talking about! To be honest just until 2 months ago i thought gender and sex were the same thing. Pushka, you are very smart.
She’s trans. Living in wrong body and hormone supplements helped her to live as girl, cuz she’s feeling like girl.
Yep
If we could just see her as she identifies herself from childhood, everything would be better.. And though “other” gendered peeps would perhaps get less bullied growing up, there’d be less representation, since everything is always so gender binary focused.. Hmmm.. Why can’t people just do what they want, they’re not hurting anyone ~~~
Dude is obviously attempting to rape the bully by pretending to be a woman
Jeff’s just obviously badly trolling with logic that only the most disgusting ignorant of society would begin to grasp.
So you are saying that lying to and having sex with someone who is drunk and is unable to consent does not count as rape?
Are you legitimately retarded? She’s not trying to have sex with anyone. That smirk is realizing the bully who tormented her all those years for liking girlish things (as a boy) now finds her hot.
Yes, you and you alone are able to determine the motivation of a comic character
clearly a Looong term plan of seduction
where…where the hell did you draw that conclusion? Especially considering their both drinking.
She looks smug, because when you’re bullied long enough, you never forget that.
here here
If she could just be a normal person, that would be much better. It’s so much easier for everyone when there aren’t people who think they deserve to be thought of as “special” by the entire damn world!
What exactly do you consider normal Gus? If there was such a thing as normal then some people would be the same. But i dont think there is anyone in this world that has someone who is identical in both everything they do, like, dislike, or look like. So “normal” isn’t really a thing and you are just a big idiot.
So, do all you faggots like having sex with trannies or some shit? That is pretty gross.
Jim/Jeff…get outta here with that speak!
Yea, fuck people who don’t push your particular agenda
Yea, fuck people who are so anrrow-minded anything out of their viewpoint is a personally attack on them and must be part of some bigger, wider ‘agenda’.
You act high and mighty, but you’re as low as the people drawing these cartoons (love you toonhole), you retarded fuck. 😀
Yea, anyone who doesn’t conform to your view point must be stupid and narrow minded. Of course you are the genius who has all the answers
No, but you know what DOES have all the answers? Neurological science over the past three decades. And guess what? All that nice neurological science favors transgenderism because of what they found.
Wait? She’s a transexual? I thought the hormone supplement is just female medicine and the first panels were her being a tomboy.
GEEZ GUYS YOU’RE REALLY PUSHING EVERYONE’S BUTTONS AGAIN TODAY
ONCE AGAIN: EVERYONE IS EQUALLY FAKE AND GAY. EVERYONE IS STUPID AND AWFUL. EQUALLY :))))
except chris, i’d fuck chris and maybe ryan if chris would only fuck me in a threesome and maybe the whole toonhole cast of writers buttheyrestillfakeandgay
YOU’RE WELCOME
*takes comb out of pocket, combs pompadour*
So is she a transexual or a girl who is a tomboy at young age.
I don’t see how it matters.
I mean like I don’t know if it was a tran joke or a childhood bully falling in love with the girl that he bullied.
I mean there were women who took hormone supplement or something for their female body health.
I think Ryan was aiming at the idea that the redhead was a boy, and in panel 3 is now on Hormone Replacement Therapy, and develops into a girl by panel 4.
The other boy bullies the redhead for looking like a girl and wanting to be a girl, but is then attracted to the redhead when she actually looks like a developed woman.
This is weird, considering last night I had a dream where I had a sex change…
I’ve been reading Toonhole for years.. this comic stood out the most. It means a lot to see a joke about trans people that’s not derogatory. Mad respect
Really appreciate it, Lester! Thanks for chiming in. Glad to have your readership 🙂
She’s got an eye disorder! She can’t help but look to her right all the time D:
my high school biology teacher told us that your reproductive organ is used (at birth) to name you. it doesn’t (in actual sense) determine your sex. now i’m going to make a noose and hang myself.
Of course it determines your sex; your sex is *defined* as what type of reproductive organs you have. I think your teacher meant that it doesn’t determine your gender (or, to be more technical, your gender identity).
The guy has a thing for green shirts and blue trousers.
oh, right to the point. hmm…ah!
There’s nothin’ wrong with following your passions…as long as it’s not killin’ or rape. 😀
*shrugs* I thought it was a girl from the start and the boy taunting at the beginning was just an idiot and didn’t know it was a girl, not a guy. I was teased for looking like a boy until my breasts and hips shaped out. And girls sometimes have to take supplement hormones because their bodies don’t make enough.
That _is_ actually a nice girl bike! 😀
Gee, lot of butthurt comments.
I thought it was a pretty good message :).
Wow!!! So many uptight people. It’s just a cartoon. And a damn funny one at that
Thank you so much for not treating her like a punchline in and of herself. I’ll be sharing this with my trans* friends/family, and I’m betting they get a good chuckle out of it too. 🙂
her ass is kinda low
Dang, I didn’t even realize what this was until I looked at the first panel again.
Nice girl penis!
as a transgirl myself, i’m quite happy to see this comic.
I also see the typical ‘faggot’ comments be chucked about by people who understand really don’t want to understand. Depressing but typical.
idiots.
That makes us really happy, licorice! There’s momentum of trans representation in media these days, hopefully leading to more understanding and long overdue acceptance. Hopefully ToonHole can be part of that : )
Was already hot in highschool.
lol @ these butthurt comments.
Poor trolls so emotionally invested in telling others what someone else’s body means to society. I have some news for you.
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That thing you’re ashamed of that you don’t want anyone to know about; it’s showing right now. You’re not fooling anyone. Come to the dark side, we have boobies.
“I got sexy. You stayed boring.”
This is a wonderful comic!
Traps are gay my dudes, be careful.
Trap?
this is a meme now
News flash: gender still equals sex dipshitolas
But in 2016 America, everyone takes “you can be whatever you wanna be when you grow up!” a little too seriously
And people somehow just suddenly have to accept it
But some people aren’t gonna do that immediately, of course
That’s just how shit works
Also read up on biology, those saying there’s an autism spectrum of genders
Fuckyoubillnyewelovedyouandyousoldoutonusall
Nezumi as edgy as it sounds please hang yourself
Yo, my nama jeff harambe 21 damn daniel back at it again with the white vans
Eww, transpeople are gross and mentally retarded
You can say that again👍
ikr, I agree and I’m trans myself lmao
guys what if the kid thought she looked like a boy the whole time and she never corrected him. Stay woke my children
In all reality this is a mental condition. Rather than you ignorant idiots insulting “narrow minded people” I recommend you open your very own mind and look at all view points rather than stooping down to the likes of Jim/Jeff. How I see it gender is determined by the body, neurologically yes the brain has issues distinguishing due to chemical imbalance, but the fact of the matter is it is still a mental condition. Sex is your gender, your body parts such as the male genitalia determine if you are male or female. A female is born with its own set of genetalia for reproduction and a male is given the like. Now do not get me wrong, I do not hate the people who made a choice, but I do not quite back up such a choice. A person is a person and they deserve proper respect, a choice is a choice and that can be judged and opinionated. Also you may ask why I do not support the choice and my simple answer is religion. Also, please do not hit me with your opinions and insults, I gave you up most respect despite my ideals, now please show me respect.
Here here my friend, here here
I’ve found it. The meme. The myth. The legend. Nice.
He only said “nice” at the end because he was drunk😂
This is the day of the expanding man
That shape is my shade
There where I used to stand
It seems like only yesterday
I gazed through the glass
At ramblers, wild gamblers
That’s all in the past
You call me a fool
You say it’s a crazy scheme
This one’s for real
I already bought the dream
So useless to ask me why
Throw a kiss and say goodbye
I’ll make it this time
I’m ready to cross that fine line
Learn to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
My back to the wall
A victim of laughing chance
This is for me
The essence of true romance
Sharing the things we know and love
With those of my kind
Libations
Sensations
That stagger the mind
I crawl like a viper
Through these suburban streets
Make love to these women
Languid and bittersweet
I rise when the sun goes down
Cover every game in town
A world of my own
I’ll make it my home sweet home
Learn to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
This is the night of the expanding man
I take one last drag
As I approach the stand
I cried when I wrote this song
Sue me if I play too long
This brother is free
I’ll be what I want to be
I learned to work the saxophone
I play just what I feel
Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel
They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Deacon Blues
i would love to extend on this. because this can become a comedic/romance and deconstruction of a genre
I saw this on Instagram once. It was funny! Those kinds of memes were also funny!
Oh i’m a fucking idiot, I didn’t even realize that was a trans chick until today. I just thought that the chick was underdeveloped for a long ass time and the moral was “don’t judge someone until they’ve fully bloomed” or somethin. Atleast the comic makes sense to me now lol
Very nice comix! Please continue this story!
THEORY: She was a girl the whole time, but she looked like a boy. To look less masculine, she grew out her hair and took supplements. She smirked when she found him staring at her because she knew she’d gotten revenge. She was never a boy. He thought she was a boy and was teasing her for liking girly things even though she was a girl for real. She got him back.
Nah, it’s a smoking hot tranny, one of those that could fool a gynecologist.
We’ve all “been fooled” by one of them, haven’t we?
Haven’t we?
Guys?
That what I was thinking. Saw an altered version of this on YouTube with her smerking and thought this would be the outcome, but I’m very surprised to see a lot of people saying it’s LGBT. It’s fine if it is, I just see it as a girl being bullied for looking like a boy till she finally develops (bodies chang at different rates).
I wish I could go back to a time when I didn’t know about this trash
Me too, dude. Me too.
Had a bit of a giggle at this one. Keep em coming.
As a gender fluid person who was teased over gender issues in the past, I’ve gotta say: well done 😂
all anti-lgbtq people can go burn in hell.
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So are you saying that women are solely defined by having children? Seems a little reductive, doesn’t it?
So ignorant. Transsexual is not a fetish.
So you’re calling science a sexual deviant?
What the hell is wrong with most of you
*gives pro lgbtq, furry, etc opinion on comic and coments*
most coments in this are ether pro lgbtq or angry for no reason assholes.
hell exsists, right? (not for lgbtq, furry, etc)
*loud claping*
i have also spoted a furry, imature idiot, and just nice coments about the comic.
Why are there so many pseudoscientific transphobes in the comments? It’s not that hard to do research nowadays.
bro most of these coments are from 2017
did you YOU do your fucking research you fucking idiot
don’t make a big deal out of a small thing again!
Really hoping that she was originally just a tomboy, and that guy knew she was actually a girl. And those hormone supplements were just that supplements. And this was a joke on the audience.
This reminds me of a girl I went to school with. Even though her hair was as short as every one of the boys’ hair, everyone knew she was a girl. She could’ve been more tomboyish.